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PostSubject: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 8th 2013, 11:34 pm

Possibly a slightly strange request, but I was wondering if I could borrow an L for next PVP from someone. I am wanting to do an experiment involving matchups to see if adding a 2L to my squad will change things up at all. I don't want to buy one and find out that it isn't going to work out.

Was after a halfway decent one (not sure if the Ls are graded as the Es seem to be) to make sure it is a useful experiment.

I can probably offer up 2 * D&J and a canis (all 8/200c) as collateral if required but was hoping by know someone would trust me enough not to require it (one of those D&J was going to be lent out and I was going to use the other one next PVP if not required for collateral).

Anyways, I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 8th 2013, 11:48 pm

This guy ^^ right here is as trustworthy as they come and lets people borrow things without thought. Would be awesome of someone could hook this guys up. If i could i would do it in a second. I only have a L v1(santa) , tideslayer is already being loaned out.

Wish you would have asked two days ago man
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 8th 2013, 11:57 pm

Thanks for the glowing reference Smile

It would be for the PVP event anyways as the matchups are different to normal PVP matches.

I decided that I need to buy a moderately expensive L at some stage as there seems to be a bit of inflation going on and I have some res lying around and mercs I should sell.

I only had the idea of testing things today......Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 9th 2013, 1:41 am

lol yeah man i hear that. It wasn't long before i had a list of people asking about tideslayer for pvp as she, depending on your setup is one of the best L's for pvp.

Realized this very late lol
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 9th 2013, 2:51 am

Ask Arthainius, he lent me his Odin before. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 9th 2013, 2:54 am

I'm tapped out as well, but my brother was playing around with his squad, he might have something lying around. I'll ask him and get back to you whenever he decides to reply to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 9th 2013, 3:03 am

M: just walk over and slap him. Especially since he refuses to enter the forum. Actually, slap him twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 9th 2013, 6:31 am

What's in-game name of your brother Moncrief ?
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 7:32 am

Thanks for offering to look in to it mamoncrief.

Also a bit of a bump for the thread....
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 9:28 am

Thanks to other members loaning me some Ls to test out a turtle team this next PvP event, my Marcus v2 will be mostly collecting dust. Granted, he would be a fine back-row filler for full squad battles, but if you can put him to better use then you can borrow him. While he's not one of the more overpowered Ls, he fits well with both ATK and AGI teams thanks to his skills, and is a solid all around merc. Just let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 9:50 am

marcus is one of my favorite mercs! Wish I would have been able to get a v2 of him when I still had a v1
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 1:12 pm

Hmm, difference isn't between v1 and v2 isn't that big anyway. Obviously you'd go before some other Lethals with less AGI but I'd love to see a squad with this:

CXB-2000U / Jackson / Marcus / Jackson / Mista or something similar, it would be so bad-ass haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 1:20 pm

If were playing the unlimited Res game I would run telepath-jackson-hellcat-fista-tideslayer
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 2:48 pm

^ swap jackson and fista and good squad Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 3:21 pm

And IMO a tide-jackson-hc-jackson-tide is even better than throwing fista in. A hC/jackson buffed tide will hit before a fista. Tide has 2k more agil than fista base. And you get twice the attack procs

I'd also like to note that if anyone is selling jackson, I would be interested in trading for them so I could run this squad in pvp Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 5:32 pm

Marcus the Merc v2 is one of the greatest merc, except for his AGI. He's so damn slow, haha. ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 6:13 pm

Not to pull the thread-jacking back into some semblance of order, or dash cold water on the discussion, but ...

Do any of you opining have an L for my good buddy - danthepirate?

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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 6:38 pm

Legend has offered hasn't he?
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 6:45 pm

Duavae, you are correct; and apologies Duke. Embarassed

Completely spaced on the "if you can put him to better use then you can borrow him" part of your posting.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 7:00 pm

haha you are still spacing, it's Legend's post
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 7:38 pm

Thanks for the offer Legend, I will put him to good use....he can keep my incinerate and leader company on the back row.

If you ever want to experiment with D&Js...hit me up......


Getting back off topic and back to talking about the merits of various Ls, I am looking for the merc that will unbuffed, take down the most enemy mercs as possible (I do run a blue bot so that needs to be taken into consideration). Also something that is tough for when nothing procs.

Mercs I have tried:
Incinerate - Good, but no longer does enough damage per hit because of the leader HP buff. Maybe a better evo would work as I only have a 4/50.
Lilith - Works better than Incin even with less hits as it is tougher and is buffed by my blue. I have just promoted her and demoted Incin to the back row.
Siren - Great for 1 hit KO everything but is not tough.

Mercs I have not tried and am not considering:
Black bot - I think Lilith would be better.
Cannonback - A tougher siren with a weaker nuke that probably won't 1 hit KO everything. Would probably be almost as good as lilith.


Mercs I am Considering (that I can afford sometime in the near future):
Hanzo: Seems tough and useful. Only a 3 hitter, but relentless assault will kill 3 unbuffed. Weapon Prep is a bit concerning. Can be used in raid as well.
Katie Kong: Seems perfect if her nuke can 1 hit KO stuff (stuff being mostly tier 2 mercs). In that case she would be like a tough dual action Siren. Not useful in raid.
Tideslayer: Probably won't work too well unbuffed.
Marcus: Stats seem a bit low.

Any thoughts/opinions/suggestions are most welcome.......
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 7:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 10:08 pm

My first Lethal would be a Daddy LongGuns v2 or a Hanzo v2. Hanzo has nice AGI, if you buff that with CXB-2000U it's 3 insta-kills for sure. Also Weapon Prep will kill anything it hits that way. Daddy LongGuns v2 has 150% Modifier, 3 hits, but also Weaken. I don't see it being just as good as Hanzo but still a decent first Lethal.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 10th 2013, 10:46 pm

With my squad, I am aiming for mercs that will either go first or make me go first. When they attack, they must kill as effectively as possible.

At the moment I have settled on a formation of X - Blue Bot - D&J. I have tried Lilith, Incinerate and Siren in position X, with Lilith in my opinion, working the best so far. But, I am always looking for ways to make my squad better. This experiment to see if I can up my game by putting an L in position X without incurring a penalty in the matchups that I am offered. If it messes my matchups up, there is no point in putting an L in position X and I will stick with Lilith until a better E comes along.

For the merc I use in position X, best case scenario is that it can wipe the opposition when it procs. This is pretty much siren. However, as we all know siren is a bit weak and doesn't fare well in a fist fight. So there is a trade off, and that is why I am currently using Lilith.

Hanzo is a good candidate as I said above, as he will definitely dish out the damage and he is tough. He works well unbuffed and if he is buffed, they will definitely be dead multiple times over.

Daddy long guns is tough, but probably won't kill anything 1 hit unbuffed which rules him out. Counter is nice but only 30%. I would prefer the Enemies already dead.

Katie Kong I am hoping would work like a tougher version of siren. If she can 1 hit KO at least 3 opponents when she attacks unbuffed then I would be happy with that. If not then she is out (Again she would be facing tier 2 mercs pretty much exclusively).

If anyone has experience with Katie, I would really appreciate your input.
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PostSubject: Re: Can I borrow an L....Please?   October 11th 2013, 9:53 am

Evolved WIS Stats Katie Kong v2: 11339 ( No crystals ) * 300% to ALL Enemies. Ulfr of the Lion has 250% Modifier with 14k STATS when POPE. So basically they're both the same in WIS damage. But the main problem is that the chance on her 'Rocket Ride' proc has a max of 5%, so I don't see her being a top L anymore. Don't get me wrong, I have no experience with her but the chance she procs is kind of a bummer. She's fast though, 15k+ AGI with crystals.
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