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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 6:21 am

It's a worse version of Diana, Battlemaiden.

So, probably 1 res less than whatever Diana is currently going for.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 6:26 am

If even that. By the way everyone someone sent me a pic of my pvp squad and it was not the one I had set, so might want to check and make sure the one you're wanting is showing up.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 9:49 am

Supposedly they fixed they fixed the event. anyone notice any changes?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 10:01 am

I'm really getting frustrated with this event. Just hit a POINT BOOST on my 15 win streak. Choices are teams: (unranked 1k points) -  (unranked with lethals 1.5k points) - (1.01x ranked 2k points). Seriously? It's a good thing I'm just farming mags.

I bet they fixed the 2-mag bug.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 10:26 am

I am still pretty frustrated myself. I spent around 17 mags earlier just to defend a 3 win streak against a team that was on par with mine if not slightly worse. I know that is ridiculous, but I wanted to see how much it would actually take. After that, I hit a point boost and my options were L squad for around 5k points, L squad for around 4.5k, and the same squad that I just defended against worth like 350 points.......seriously????
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 11:04 am

danthepirate wrote:
Hot tip guys: currently on an 18 streak running just a blue wasp........
Blue WASP plus what else?

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i wonder if squad comp accouns for how many points you get. cause right now only 1 L is in and im geting tons of points per win.
what do u mean 'squad comp'? I have 1L and only getting 22k max reward on pt boost. I tried setting up 4man squad to see if my squad compostion affected opponents but saw no change. I think opponents are chosen by overall rank, group rank, and total battles won...but again, I'm probably wrong
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 11:45 am

There is NO legitimate reason for me to be facing the opponents that I am. I am entirely outclassed. My guess is that the ranking you received in tower may effect your opponents. I finished much higher than I should have based on ally points and I'm hypothesizing that may be the issue. Who knows though, it still doesn't explain the defense and proc issues
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 1:17 pm

I would love to know exactly what determines your match up. I have never understood before what did, and I dang sure don't understand this event.

Btw, if anyone runs into my me would you please let me know what is showing up for my team. In game name is whtdrgn33
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 7:35 pm

This event is bullshit
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 8:16 pm

I'm running experimental squads of 3-5 buffers and the combos I set them up for simply aren't proccing the majority of the time past the 3-win streak. 

Foresight+Demoralizer is so OP that it reduces any enemy attack or ATK skill to literally 0 damage (unless they have a primarch to raise their ATK stats back up to 11-14k ATK). It's the most blatantly broken mechanism (characters hit with 0 damage don't even flinch), so for the game's proc manipulation to work the way it is designed , the combo has to rarely appear past the 3-win streak, and that's exactly what happens.

I even ran with a War Marshall-XiaoTigrey-War Marshall-XiaoTigrey-WarMarshall for a while, and more often than not they proced in ways where there were no synergies (no foresights boosting demoralizers).
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 8:23 pm

Another thing I've learned about proc manipulation and how the games try to hide the predetermined wins and losses:

From cross-playing BB and FF where an equivalent buff is 50% in BB and 100% in FF, the buff procs in FF have a much greater effect in matches than in BB. So when the game decides it's time for you to lose (which is most of the time if you don't have a top-tier team), the buffers in FF fail to proc more often than the buffers in BB.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 8:29 pm

How else would they get you to buy ac but I bet their hurting in this event with such little participation.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 9:30 pm

Lanseal, I took on your Tigrey + Demoralizer team with my lethal team for fun... and lost. All your pre-battle buffs procced and I wat auto-attacking for 0 damage! I managed to take out everything but your Jawcrusher with AGI procs from my Daddy, but then the crusher procced and it was lights out. Keep up the fun theory crafting.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 9:51 pm

Fought a similar team once, Wasteland - Tigrey - Wasteland - Tigrey - Wasteland and it just kicked my ass because NOTHING proc'd. I'm running Canis, Switchblade, Siren, Ulfr and CXB-2000U. Well, there's no need to say that when NOTHING procs for 3 rounds, you lose while hitting 0 all the time.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 10:07 pm

Yeah I tried to game the system using the above described 0 damage strategy, but the system is originally built around the notion of deciding what procs and when (in many cases, never) in order to predetermine the win or loss. If it predetermines a loss, the game will structure the battle by adjusting procs to give the opponent the advantage. The only reliable way in the end to break through this is with high stat fams and going all-out, so that the advantage gained by the boosted stats outlasts the disadvantage of decreased proc.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 10:11 pm

Zoar has an interesting team along these lines that I fought and lost against today. I think it was Helio V2, Yellow Bot, Wasteland Rider, F9 and something else that I forget. Anyway all his debuffs went off prebattle and my mercs were hitting for 100-300 damage and he won the match easily. Very cool.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 10:44 pm

Daed caught me. I’m trying multiple things this event to try to beat the f*cked up system Dakota has tossed on us. I call this new strat the “Anti-Monitor” team (reference is to DC Comics Crisis on Infinite Earths series). Essentially I run debuffs for the top three skills – Helio for attack, YellowBot for agility, and black vulture for wisdom. Wasteland rider can be subbed in for a duplicate helio-like effect against attack heavy opponents. Usually remaining two slots are Lilith and F-9 mark 4. Although proc rates are manipulated, the debuffs have higher (70%) rates in general. Thus my team lowers your key attribute (and defense) and then my super high AGI attackers hit you first with a knock-out punch. If you do get to hit me, it's a weaker hit than you planned for and I survive for the second turn knock-out. Due to Dakota shenanigans my team is probably more effective when you guys face it as a NPC than when I run it though tongue 
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 12:17 am

What is the reward you get at 2m points?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 4:36 am

A medal for making it that far! Im on the verge of quitting pvp if this is hows its going to be from now on. Have farmed a pathetic 30 mags, last pvp j gained 150+..
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 10:01 am

^^^ This !
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 11:06 am

I give up. Lost two times in row 4th match when going full auto. Against mediocre squad. FU game.
PS: And broke my mouse too Razz
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 12:49 pm

If it makes you feel any better, caya, I just lost to your squad twice in a row for my streak 30 battle. I gave up and decided it wasn't worth burning more mags since I'm just farming this event anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 6th 2013, 2:09 pm

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What is the reward you get at 2m points?
new Merc
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 7:15 am

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If it makes you feel any better, caya, I just lost to your squad twice in a row for my streak 30 battle. I gave up and decided it wasn't worth burning more mags since I'm just farming this event anyway.
Same here. All I do on pvp is farm, but caya's team blew me out of a 15 streak.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 11:33 am

Jo- are you sure? The picture that is showing up for me is some chick with a bird hat
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 12:09 pm

^It's not showing up for me either. It was the first two days but ever since then it's been some merc from BB.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 3:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 6:00 pm

if you guys want a hint at making battles easier throughout your streak take out your whole back row -your leader if your not using them. Personally i like mean mary she just doesn't cut the mustard compared to my other mercs.

for some reason matchmaking considers back row and if you dont have one the fights will be slightly easier. Ive only lost maybe 2-3 times this event however im not playing hard
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 6:56 pm

Nice discovery, Art!
I had been running V: incin golem canis mordeo battlemaster, my success rate is better against certain squads, when i swap out canis for gold bot...
My agi based damage squad V: Switchblade gyro wasp archangel lillith has potential for massive dmg but totally proc dependent, tinkered with swapping in gold bot for weakest but then im too buff/nerf dependent. I like having kennedy and agi based dmg mercs in reserve bc i find they proc more from spawning in full squad battles...
Ill experment with Art's theory
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 7:49 pm

no diff 11th battle i get xxplingotxx thalston and integradragon
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 7:59 pm

I get plingot on 3rd fight and I never owned any Lethals or any good Epics like Incinerate, screwed up system.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 8:21 pm

Plus ill forget to switch squads for fullteam too often
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 8:22 pm



odd point reward



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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 7th 2013, 10:20 pm

what has more wis a ope blue vulture or ope blue bot and who buffs more agi and def
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 1:27 am

Blue bot has the better stats, vulture has the better modifier. Vulture edges out bot overall as far as the bot goes.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 8:33 am

That point reward looks more like a BB Reward than a FF Reward.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 10:52 am

mamoncrief wrote:
Blue bot has the better stats, vulture has the better modifier. Vulture edges out bot overall as far as the bot goes.
was just making sure. somehow even with 8/50 + mercs a blue bot buffed and my vulture buffed but his exact same merc went before mine. he hit me for 57 damage cause it was hc buffed mord buffed but still.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 11:30 am

I war surprised recently once or twice, when 3-4 opponents survived my Siren's proc..

OK, they were buffed by Niobe but still, never happened before.. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 12:48 pm

Well, take a Niobe buffed Canis ( 16k DEF ), that's 16k + 14k DEF = 30k DEF. In a PvP battle she procs for about ~20k damage to each merc, not suprising that they didn't die. I have seen only one unbuffed merc surviving my Siren once and it was a Graff, The Ironfist v2.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 6:34 pm

I know I am just farming this event, so this was a bonus.... (single mag of course)



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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 6:41 pm

@legendslayer: What line-up are you currently running?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 7:01 pm

A hybrid AGI/ATK team consisting of 'Boom Boxer v2 - Mordeo - Daddy v2 - Dbl Gun Commando v2 - Daddy V2' all in W formation.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 7:07 pm

You never fail to have an interesting squad....
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 7:10 pm

I like to keep things interesting! If you see me, give it a shot and let me know how it fares.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 8th 2013, 7:37 pm

I'll have to get my Mordeo back. I think it would be an interesting fight as I would be running:

Niobe - Tigrey - Mordeo - Canis - Doublegun in a W. I really want to dump the Tigrey and get a Birdkeeper though.

I think it would all depend on what your boom boxer did.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 9th 2013, 12:00 am

This game really burns me sometimes. I spent the last hour trying to farm enough points for a promotion but I'm going to fall 140k short. The thing that really gets me is that I didn't get a single point boost that entire hour. I'm confident a couple point boosts at the right time would have made up that 140k and then some. I decided to settle for no title change when dakota offered me the same choice of opponents at a 6 win streak that they did at my last 27 win streak. Fuck that.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 9th 2013, 5:35 am

IMO mordeo is top 5 merc right now simply due to buff and the game mechanic changes
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 9th 2013, 7:57 am

how does niobe determie her buffs?? lowest atk , lowest def?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 9th 2013, 8:49 am

Lowest HP.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 9th 2013, 10:55 am

This is so bitchin', I just lost a round 4 battle to the same team I lost round 24 battle.

I'm loving the new PVP match-making. I can't farm ammo or crystals, which makes me happy.
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