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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 3rd 2013, 10:03 pm

they do crap reward cause they think we will go for it anyway cause we need good bonus.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 3rd 2013, 11:31 pm

nothing feels quite as dissatisfying as working for a year to build a team in this game only to have to defend two 3 win streaks in a row. Bah.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 3rd 2013, 11:40 pm

What happened to changing the topic from complaining about proc manipulation to making fun of the L Smile

My mercs seem to be working normally again....
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 3rd 2013, 11:47 pm

No one else wanted to complain about that evidently, so if you can't beat em join em.

I'm still irked about that lethal though, its seriously a bad deadeye combined with a bad slice and blast.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 12:13 am

No, I think its a bad version of birdkeeper. Same shield % but less turns and only self and adjacent. Birdkeeper is 2*150% attack with stun for 1 turn, this is 1* 250% with 1* stun for 2 turns with a lower proc rate.

Also has a nice, low agi for shielding after the first round of attacks.....

I don't mind the art though.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 6:01 am

I wonder if the reason for the L teams after 6-9 win streaks is in recent massive left of players with low quality mercs.
Or in authors wanting us to deplete our stockpile of resources Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 6:34 am

My procs are normal except for every 3rd fight, where nothing procs/buffs and not getting any higher than winstreak 6.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 7:09 am

OK, Dakota won. Im going to spend my resources and give the game a break.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 8:21 am

caya wrote:
I wonder if the reason for the L teams after 6-9 win streaks is in recent massive left of players with low quality mercs.
Or in authors wanting us to deplete our stockpile of resources Smile.
I think both theories are correct...discussed this with EverydayNYC yesterday... i think the 6-9 LL squads are a result of less players in game overall and the remaining players have most LLs...
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:11 am

Match nr 14: Thalstin or Hamand or Triplex... well... i havent risked it even full auto Very Happy.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 10:54 am

well i faced legendslayer and fozziev too after 21streak or 24 streak Wink
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 12:22 pm

Im actually just going to give up, the squads im getting after a 3 win streak are ridiculous... losing matches I should have in the bag.. no buffs/procs my side though every single one of my opponents goes off 9/10.. fu dakota.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 12:35 pm

Proc are normal. But I regularly lose on the 4th fight and never above 12
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 12:46 pm

I am glad i came here and read this. I don't usually get frustrated with this game but it is ridiculous. I can't get past my 4th fight. I think i got to 6 one time. But as everyone else stated, the proc rate is atrocious, i am facing teams with 3 lethals in my 3rd fight and sometimes my first fight. I all outed on my 3rd fight 3 times and lost everytime. Game has also crashed midfight and ate up my ammo but didn't count the fight. And another time the game crashed i went back in and though there was 7 minutes left it wouldn't let me continue my streak because i get the message that time has run out. I don't even have a remarkable team, I just finally put together a decent squad, but the game is all jacked. I am running CXB-2000U with low stats, 9752 and lower, 50 ope Archangel STK-4X, 50 ope F-9 Mark 4, Switchblade Vulture v2, 50 ope Bionic Televangelist v2. And i don't even remember my back row, it's nothing that great. Anyhow, I shouldn't be fighting groups with 3 lethals on my 3rd or 4th fight, and even during point boost they are worth like 2k points and no point boost i have seen them as low as 350ish. And just to repeat, the proc rate is a joke. There is definitely something fishsy going on, but I guess if everyone is experiencing it than we are still on a pretty even playing field. ATM i can't even get in the map, just keep getting Network Failure for about the past hour and a half.

Edit: as for the theory that we are getting these tough matches because those are the only people playing anymore. Well I don't think that should matter. The game should randomly put you in ranked fights increasing difficulty as streak gets higher. And that should/would include inactive players too. I say that because I think I tried friending some players i fought and then it turns out they are inactive players.

BTW i would really like a lilith in place of my televangelist, anyone be willing to trade?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 2:20 pm

@mamoncrief: Well, everyone needs to stop playing in this event so I can win this Lethal. Yes, he is bad. But for someone who has never won a lethal, I would still take it. I think that sometimes all of you guys with more than one Lethal forget what it's like for the rest of us Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 2:29 pm

I don't have any Lethal yet and even if I'd go for one, I would never even try this event. You'll be waisting way too much ammo on their proc manipulation and ( whatever the hell this match-up system is ).
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 2:36 pm

ya the matchups are really interesting to say the least
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 2:50 pm

@ Zoar if someone wanted to win a lethal just to say they have won one this would definitely be the event because participation really is not there. I've only played a few matches today just to get my multiplier up and think I'm still around 20th. Pretty sad
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 3:13 pm

After using 9 cans to go from round 4-6 I get to round 7 and my choices are....

Strap
Tele - MF - Tele - Blue - Tele

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Incin - Golem - Titan - Canis - F9

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Blazing - HC - Helio - Blue - Torpid

This is incredibly frustrating.  I have yet to get past round 9 and I've burned a fair amount of cans.  Nothing is proccing and the match ups are hilariously uneven.

And to think....I was actually excited to try my squad of....

Birdkeeper - Colossus - Canis - Niobe - F9

It's a shame niobe procs about 5% of the time otherwise this squad might work.

If this is what PVP has become (everyone gets matched against the best teams) I'm not sure I can continue.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 3:18 pm

Additionally, how is it that about half the time that my POPE F9 procs, the ringshot payload doesn't one hit enemies in the back row?

14772 Agil @ 250% should kill anything
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 3:50 pm

i got to 9 without all out and without defending once !!! I feel so elite...
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:26 pm

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Additionally, how is it that about half the time that my POPE F9 procs, the ringshot payload doesn't one hit enemies in the back row?

14772 Agil @ 250% should kill anything
I totally agree, my 50 OPE F9 seems to be very weak.
I don't do more than 50 OPE because i feel the investment is more than it is worth, and i just don't have the resources.
At most I would go 200 OPE, 200 OPE is +650 and 400 POPE is +665.5 and 50 OPE is +500, so even with 200 OPE i don't think +1 point on each stat per crystal is really worth it.

So that would put my f9 at about 14622 agi. Still should kill almost anything unless they have a major defense boost, but that hasn't been the case, my f9 just seems off.

However my Archangel does one hit....even though hallowed cleaving is only 200% agi...?

I even use CXB 2000u, and sometimes even with the AGI boost i still don't get one hits.


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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:29 pm

I just watched it bounce off an unbuffed bionic televangelist in the middle row and also bounce off another F9 in the front row
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:35 pm

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I just watched it bounce off an unbuffed bionic televangelist in the middle row and also bounce off another F9 in the front row
What is more strange is that my f9 will hit another f9 for like 14k and then that f9 will hit mine for like 22k, no buffs, same row placement?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:37 pm

the problem with a 50 OPE F9 is that the strong point of the F9 is that he's going first, by having a 50 OPE F9 means pretty much all other F9 will go before yours. Anyway if you don't care about the extra +167 you should optimize even further and make a 7 in 1 +50 crystals.

I'm running 3 F9 + 1 archangel and even with a blue bot buff they're not OHKOing decent teams merc, but if 2 of the 4 proc it's a win even vs a lethal team.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:43 pm

That would make sense......except that I've seen F9's on the other team go before mine even when no buffs are in play.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:48 pm

So, um....does anyone know what is up with the BB characters showing up as the new reward mercs? More metadata I'm guessing.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 4:52 pm

They should rename this event to: "Half the time you need to go all out!"
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 5:36 pm

Does it happen to anyone else that sometimes when i spend a single shot in a fight it uses 2 ammo instead?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 5:49 pm

Hot tip guys: currently on an 18 streak running just a blue wasp........
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 6:45 pm

I'm kinda surprised that my squad is giving anyone trouble. no Ls no hard hitters and from my end... no proc
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 6:59 pm

danthepirate wrote:
Hot tip guys: currently on an 18 streak running just a blue wasp........
Heh, thats been my key member since last PvP tourney and i think people rather evade my squad. Good chance for 4 heavy agi hitters to go first and usually its over. Still, heavily proc dependent.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 7:03 pm

It's not my main squad, I am building a POPE Wis one for someone Smile

Seriously though she is completely wrecking havoc on the lvl 6 leaders, and UC mercs she is being served up in the matchups. Up to a 21 streak now. Would be quite amusing if I can get a 30 streak on a single mag.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 7:49 pm

im not really losing that much . I dont think ive lost yet but when my HC doesn't buff its always really really close. And with the way enemy buffs second im betting my team isnt too terrible to face. Tech only running 1 lethal instead of all 5 .. im proud of myself for getting over the L craziness.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 8:09 pm

I thought the 2 ammo per battle bug was just an urban legend until it happened to me a minute ago. Very annoying having to burn a mag to fight your 3rd battle.

Also, it feels like they increased the effect of DEF for mercs (at least in the opposing squad) in this event. I don't have any hard numbers for proof, but all my mercs in general seem to be hitting for less than they did last pvp event. My unbuffed Daddy v2 is hitting for 5 or 6k on an autoattack, which seems low for a 15k+ ATK....
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 8:15 pm

See page 1 of this thread for all my whinging on the matter....

I think they made a change, but it was really bugged with the way it was implemented on the first day. I think now it is working "correctly" which is the increased effect of DEF which you have noticed.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:26 pm

Also, has anyone else noticed a sever drop in point bounties for fights? Most of my first 6 fights net me under 150 points each. streak one fights are only worth like 65-95 each.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:29 pm

weird im not trying at all not even really using natural regen and when its point boost its like 40-50k points per win
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:29 pm

weird im not trying at all not even really using natural regen and when its point boost its like 40-50k points per win
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:30 pm

i wonder if squad comp accouns for how many points you get. cause right now only 1 L is in and im geting tons of points per win.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:31 pm

Did they bring back the group battles?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:31 pm

hah even point boost and max streak the most im getting is 16-18k
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 9:52 pm

I am definitely noticing the point values / matchups are a lot worse for me this event. 12 out of my first 15 fights this streak were unranked players netting 100-200 points a win. I have not seen over 10k point matches even in the upper ends of my streaks. The most points ive seen so far this even is 21k on a point boost against a top ranked team.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 10:45 pm

Im with legendslayer...my max reward for entire 30 battles is about 22000 on pointboost. And ops are 3-5 Lethals. And ops are often the same squads over and over...I'm gonna try running 3 or 4 merc squad after 30th win to test ops v reward theory...intriguing.
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 10:48 pm

...i think back line defense is buffed
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 4th 2013, 10:51 pm

Is it possible that the devs buffed backline def so it appears like the "deal damage to back line" merc they just introduced looks better than it actually is?
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 12:21 am

Forget this event. I'm just going to get my 3 wins, loose the 4th, 5th or 6th and farm mags. How can you get anywhere getting 100 points per win?
I've never seen so many uber astro's, whip guys and UM's during an event. They all came out of the woodwork and it seems like every team 1-6 has one and 7-10 has an tele, an L or a black bot.

If anyone is looking for a black bot there are 3 on the X for 12-25 ac
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 1:28 am

Wow! I am seeing BB images in the thread. WTF!!! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 4:00 am

Couldn't get to six wins as i was meeting crazy strong squads starting from fight 4.
With some switching around it gets better now though, finally reached my first 15 win streak. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: December PvP Event   December 5th 2013, 6:08 am

how much will be the event rare? 4-5 ac?
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