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PostSubject: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 5:26 am

Nice L though. If the rules for PvP events havent been completely fucked up again, I would even think about going for this one.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 5:29 am

The L sounds quite good indeed. If he's double action
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 5:30 am

Doesnt matter if he single action...he has 19.3 k atk and is the new fastest merc in game
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 5:32 am

he prebattle one skill?
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 6:24 am




maybe some of the admins can add pe stats and proccs Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 6:33 am

thx amigo so no prebattle skills but faster then hell !
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 6:36 am

yep
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 10:55 am

What's the modifier for "massive" damage since they nerfed all the modifiers last autumn? Is it 300%? 400%?

He'll be a pretty good against raid bosses if you can attach him to some AGI/ATK buffers. Too bad there aren't any good AGI buffers left.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 11:29 am

Haha, and its bionic *** again... so original.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 11:37 am

I guess their running out of ideas for the scfi/space theme! Would be nice to see some true alien lifeforms etc without space helemets etc! Like tyrants from warhammer 40k etc
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 11:59 am

Those stats may be god-tier but think about how much better he'd be with slightly lower stats and the ability to proc both attacks in one round. The new pact L is single action as well, makes me wonder if they'll ever release a double action merc again.

Also, I love the art on the event rare but the skill is forgettable. Looks like I'll just be playing for PVP group battles.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 12:13 pm

he is Lucion with the knuckledriver suit
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 1:15 pm

Daed I think dakota were making out they weren't going to release any more dual attack Ls in the message a week or so ago!
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 1:43 pm

Single action. 200% proc. they aren't sticking with their 'tiers' of descriptions for damage anymore. That was before the game was taken over by foreign shitheads who can't spellcheck or translate properly.


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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 1:58 pm

d1fferent, I guess they weren't kidding. I was holding out hope we'd still see an occasional double action, just with "balanced" stats and abilities.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 3:22 pm

I think one of the best f*cked up Special Skill descriptions belongs to the Fanatic:

"Engulf all enemies by flames and chance to burn them down to ashes."

I can figure out nothing about this skill from this one line of text. The terminology is terrible and not consistent with anything.

The Extraterrestrial Ranger v2 is also funny. He deals WIZ damage. Does this mean cheese-wiz? Or does he pee on the enemy mercs? Perhaps he is a WIZard from BB?

Morons.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 3:41 pm

iirybackii wrote:
What's the modifier for "massive" damage since they nerfed all the modifiers last autumn? Is it 300%? 400%?

He'll be a pretty good against raid bosses if you can attach him to some AGI/ATK buffers. Too bad there aren't any good AGI buffers left.

Hi Ryback, good to see you around.

"Massive" is only a shadow of itself after the nerf as you predicted.

Both of the skills of the event lethal is a "massive" 200% Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 4th 2014, 9:13 pm

Massive is 200% and single action so you only get one of the two damage procs one agi based one atl based. Lmao
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 3:24 am

^^ That's what upsets me. Ok, make the L's single action, but don't give them 2 atk procs and only one turn to proc them!! This lethal *at best* is nothing but a beefed up Ultra Mutant (both procs end up at 600% total damage, for the atk proc on the L he is even weaker). Think that over and realize what crap this is.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 3:27 am

So why all are still sporting to get 2 of those? And always the same names with full squad of Ls.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 5:21 am

I think some people do it regardless, either have the time or money not to be bothered!

Are queues still abit biast for anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 9:44 am

I guess I'm one of the "do it regardless" ones. Smile

The only thing good about this lethal is its high AGI which will make it the fastest for the moment.

Other than that it is just like Marcus. Marcus is better in its AGI skill and auto attack, this one is better in its ATK skill.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 10:43 am

Except Marcus can proc BOTH of his skills in the same turn if you are lucky. This single-action lethal can only proc one or the other, not both. So AT BEST this guy can only kill 2 foes in a turn, where marcus has the possibility of killing 6. Just to put it in perspective
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 11:01 am

Some Calculations for anyone interested (Guess I had too much time. Lol.):
(based on L2 stats w/o crystals):

Proc. Chances and Total Damage Done:

Marcus v2:
Skill Chance 30%, both skill proc. chance 9% (30% x 30%), remaining skill chance divided evenly.

70% Normal Atk 23820 (Atk Stat x2)
10,5% AGI Skill 125121 (Agi Stat x3 x3 foes) + Normal Atk
10,5% ATK Skill 47640 (Atk Stat x1 x3 foes) + Normal Atk
9% Both Skills 160851 (Atk+Agi Skill total) + Normal Atk

Bionic XL:
Skill Chance 30%, divided evenly between two skills.

70% Normal Atk 18901 (Atk Stat)
15% AGI Skill 97914 (Agi Stat x2 x3 foes)
15% ATK Skill 75604 (Atk Stat x2 x2 foes)

If you do a weighted average Marcus is 49K vs Bionic's 39K. I like going first though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 11:03 am

ya marcus v2 still much better then this merc. bring the rain is 300 % mod 3 times adn his atk based one is 175% I think. Either way hes much more of a merc then this L
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 11:04 am

to me going first is nice but not mandoatory anymore since no more high modifiers. I still avoid siren maidens lol
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 2:49 pm

I've just spent about 20 mags to beat Sirus team... crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 7:06 pm

1 1.8 million before my next reward? That's some motivation.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 7:27 pm

I guess the max mags u wanna spend on a superior squad is 7.. 20 sounds exagerrated... ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 8:07 pm

Sometimes you just want to beat them and you don't care about how many mags it takes. At this point in time with the continued rubbish L and R rewards the only thing to really play for is the infamy bonus.

Took me 5 battles just then to beat Aaron-G. Up to then my record against him was 3-2 to him. My team just wouldn't proc and pretty much everything of his did.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 8:22 pm

@Thalstin, was just looking over your calculations and I think they might be a bit off...

I would have thought they should be:

Marcus v2:
49% Normal Atk 23820 (Atk Stat x2)
21% AGI Skill 125121 (Agi Stat x3 x3 foes) + Normal Atk
21% ATK Skill 47640 (Atk Stat x1 x3 foes) + Normal Atk
9% Both Skills 160851 (Atk+Agi Skill total) + Normal Atk

Bionic XL:
I make the assumption that it checks for Skill 1 to proc and if it doesn't, then check for Skill 2 to proc.

49% Normal Atk 18901 (Atk Stat)
30% AGI Skill 97914 (Agi Stat x2 x3 foes)
21% ATK Skill 75604 (Atk Stat x2 x2 foes)

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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 8:36 pm

I didn't mean to offense mate!!   If we really wanted to beat a squad, we could purposely lose a turn (1 mag) and revenge with double multiplier (6 mags)..   Can see caya's squad is capable..   I mean the winning chance is like 80-90%? Unless you ran a full Bug team..  ^_^  You guys all hv thousands mags for sure..  Anyway not trying to argue man..  peace!!
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 9:09 pm

Sorry if it came across that way.

20 mags is pretty extreme. I have been avoiding Sirus when I see his team but I think I will give it a crack next time I face it. Hopefully it doesn't cost me 20 mags to get a win on single mag....
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 5th 2014, 9:47 pm

Yup!! I was about to mention of "manly match aka fair play".. It's sad that non of those meant for inferior teams with Es in the squad like mine.. Anyway wish you good luck mate.. Btw I recently created this account but reading the forum about a month now.. I've been playing this game for like 6 months already.. I'm from Singapore and you can address me as Min.. just a proper intro since I'm new to this forum.. "Hi!" to all others as well.. You guy's comments and suggestions really help a lot to armatures like myself.. Thanks! Appreciate it..
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 12:37 am

Welcome Min! Glad to have you around!
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 2:28 am

Guys lets be positive for a change.  Everybody has been saying the rewards since tele were "underwhelming" and not worth it but we end up realizing its actually good later...ex.  helio, mindflayer, howie.nox..etc...I'm not trying to kiss ass but give dakota a chance....I think they are honestly trying to make the game better...imo this lethal would be worth a lot later on with its monster stats...sure its single hit but one proc is all it takes to decimate a team


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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 5:38 am

@danthepirate

Well, it has been too many years since I got probability lessons but, with your way of calculating,

the normal attack chances are only 49%, while with 51% chance, a skill will proc. which seems wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 5:47 am

two words..... single action for any of the lets be positive stuff lol. only top 15 and single action
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 6:49 am

@Thalstin

So the way I calculated it was the following (making the assumption that it checks for skill 1 to proc and if it does not proc checks to see if skill 2 will proc):

So the probability of skill 1 proccing is 30% with the probability of it not procing, 70%.
Skill 2 only has a chance to proc if skill 1 does not proc. So the probability of skill 2 proccing is .7 (probability of skill 1 not proccing when checked) * .3 (probability of skill 2 proccing when checked) = 21%.

So the probability of no skill proccing is 100% - 30% - 21% = 49%.

Hoprfully that kind of makes sense....
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:02 am

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Yup!!  I was about to mention of "manly match aka fair play"..  It's sad that non of those meant for inferior teams with Es in the squad like mine..  Anyway wish you good luck mate..  Btw I recently created this account but reading the forum about a month now..  I've been playing this game for like 6 months already..  I'm from Singapore and you can address me as Min..  just a proper intro since I'm new to this forum..  "Hi!" to all others as well.. You guy's comments and suggestions really help a lot to armatures like myself.. Thanks!   Appreciate it..  
Welcome min...we got two singaporeans on our team : )
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:07 am

@art  just my opinion bro...no need to start an argument...as I said he's not a super fam but he's no shinma either...well we'll see how he works out next pvp.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:26 am

@danthepirate

That's what I say that seems not right. If you say that:
the probability of no skill proccing is 100% - 30% - 21% = 49%. Than 100%-49% = 51% a skill (1st, 2nd or both) will proc. So the skill chance is higher than normal attack which must not be the case.

And the funny thing is, we are discussing in vain because Dakota has its own calculation rules and manipulations according to situation and %, chance has no real meaning in this game. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:33 am

mmllaneza wrote:
@art  just my opinion bro...no need to start an argument...as I said he's not a super fam but he's no shinma either...well we'll see how he works out next pvp.

didnt mean for it to come off that way. I was just saying no matter the skills if its double damage proc its gotta be double action
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:40 am

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mmllaneza wrote:
@art  just my opinion bro...no need to start an argument...as I said he's not a super fam but he's no shinma either...well we'll see how he works out next pvp.

didnt mean for it to come off that way. I was just saying no matter the skills if its double damage proc its gotta be double action

I'm afraid we'll see more of those Arth.

A quote from Dakota replying my question about single action lethals:

"Also the future lethals with single action will have more stats than double action lethals so we hope users will enjoy both type of lethals equally."

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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 7:43 am

caya wrote:
I've just spent about 20 mags to beat Sirus team... crazy.

 lol! ,
I like what I read.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 12:35 pm

Thalstin wrote:
"Also the future lethals with single action will have more stats than double action lethals so we hope users will enjoy both type of lethals equally."

Well it might be a glimmer of hope that they are at least aware of the situation...
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 12:59 pm

What does "more" stats mean?
Higher stats than typical, or are they going to add L-only stat categories?
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 1:18 pm

I barely avoid any squads, not even those of the top 10 players. My only really good merc is that one that procs once every match: Siren Maiden. Sometimes it takes some time to charge her nuke, but when it's ready: bye bye enemy team.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 1:38 pm

I've just had 9 win streak without meeting L team. Could it be that the squad distribution was fixed finally?
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PostSubject: Re: 1st PvP event of 2014   January 6th 2014, 1:49 pm

sphynx187 wrote:
What does "more" stats mean?
Higher stats than typical, or are they going to add L-only stat categories?

Just higher stats than typical like the current event reward Bionic XL, which will have the highest AGI, ATK and HP stat among lethals for the moment.
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