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PostSubject: New Formations   February 19th 2014, 11:20 am

I have not seen any discussion on these yet and with Raid being the next event I figured this would be a good time to try and strike up some conversation.

For anyone that has not gotten them yet, the new formations are...

Ahead 5 (All front line)
Halfway 5 (All middle line)
Rearmost 5 (All back line)
Lance 5 (All back line except the middle spot which is in the front line, like this _ _ - _ _ )

The main question I have, is if anyone has done any experimenting with proc order? I am thinking that most people with use Ahead 5 for raid, but what if you want to throw in a Pulseweaver Cyborg to buff your Primarchs? Do you put him on the left/right, or are we going to have to deal with the random proc order?

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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 19th 2014, 12:27 pm

In the straight across formations on my phone it proc's left to right. But I have heard that on iPhone that order might be reversed, proccing from right to left. Maybe someone with an iPhone can confirm, but I can confirm that on android it goes left to right.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 19th 2014, 12:36 pm

Unless you want to chain buff more than 1 merc, you should be using Ahead 5 for raid for maximum damage.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 19th 2014, 12:38 pm

Ok that is good to know. I don't have an E4 Cyborg yet, but I might try my r2 for the first day.

So something like this...

Formation (Ahead 5)

Leader - Cyborg - Prawn - Overgrown - Prawn
Na'lac - Primarch - Incinerate - Primarch - Cyclops

Also, I wonder if since Overgrown can get more damage from his other ability now (since he will be front row), if it will make him as good or better than using a pack Primarch. That is a lot of math to figure out. lol

Side note: check your PM Mamon
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 20th 2014, 8:17 am

that depends on if you have single or multi-atk fams buffed. If I buff single hitters then my pope OC is better than my ope Prim but if I buff multi hitter like the Prawn than I get more dmg if I use an ope Prim.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 20th 2014, 11:54 am

I use a Samsung Galaxy S3 and during the last pvp using "Ahead 5" I noticed 30% of the time my buffs went from right to left. With the squad I was running it did not effect anything in terms of chain buff but I can see how it would totally screw some1 who has a specific squad set for buffs that go left to right. I would suggest doing some testing prior to raid to figure out how this will effect ur squad.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 4:03 am

This is weird.
In full ahead: sentinal - trigrey1 - pulse weaver - tigrey2 - burnfrost, the buff order is like that:
pulse weaver -> tigrey2 -> tigrey1
,which is very different from what i expected:
tigrey1 -> pulse -> tigrey2 (or vice versa).
Any1 knows why?
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 4:56 am

If this is the case, I don't want it fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 5:00 am

looks like it follows the proc order of the v-formation
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 6:28 am

Did some experimentation. The front row buffs like a V formation but the back row buffs left to right. The other thing is that it isn't the case that the front row fully buffs then the back row, the rows kinda of take turns. Someone will have to fill both rows with buffers at some stage to work it out properly.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 6:30 am

danthepirate wrote:
Did some experimentation. The front row buffs like a V formation but the back row buffs left to right. The other thing is that it isn't the case that the front row fully buffs then the back row, the rows kinda of take turns. Someone will have to fill both rows with buffers at some stage to work it out properly.
MY leader who is in front most right position shoots his buff first.
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 10:14 am

Ok my observations...

Leader - Cyborg - Na'lac - Overgrown - Prawn
Cyclops - Primarch - Incinerate - Primarch - Prawn

When I am fighting on the normal map, the procs go left to right (Leader, Cyborg, Overgrown)

When I am fighting a Raid boss, the front row procs right to left UNLESS, my leader procs, which at that point it procs first before Overgrown. I have not witnessed my Leader and the Cyborg proc in the same turn so I don't know how that will work. Back rows procs left to right.

Edit: @dan, when the front and back row took turns, was your leader the one that went out of turn?
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 4:45 pm

So I am running:

Oath-Niobe-Tig-Doublegun-Brody
Prophet (1)-Prim (1)-Incin-Prim (2)-Prophet (2)

I was wrong, the front row doesn't buff like a V. My full buff order is:
Prophet (1), Tig, Doublegun, Brody, Niobe, Prim (1), Prim (2), Prophet (2)

That is some crazy order, but it's totally working out for me....
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PostSubject: Re: New Formations   February 21st 2014, 4:52 pm

ITs crazy but its true. I have similar experience.
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