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PostSubject: W: Abyssal Patriarch   February 28th 2014, 1:08 pm

I'm looking to get five more copies to make my traditional 8n1. Only looking to trade mercs for mercs as I have zero non-genebound res. LMK how many you have to trade and your want list.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 3rd 2014, 12:36 pm

I have a few extra. LF wis mercs: televangelist, burnfrost, lucion, D&J
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 3:30 am

hi i got a spare one not sure how must have traded too many :-)
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 4:13 am

Z: I've got a pair of r1's too. Now it looks like you get to decide ... build one or two?
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 6:14 am

To be honest, I've kind of lost interest. I still have multiple piles of 8xR1's to level. So I'm not sure what I am going to do. In summary, I guess we can call this post closed. Thanks everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 8:42 am

You might want to prioritize this merc, Zoar.

Just...you know...think about it.


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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 10:02 am

i still can't believe he is so cheap even though he is a great merc - I got 5 during the raid and picked up the other 3 for like nothing - I guess people don't want him because he is ugly - if he would look cooler or sexier he would be more expensive Smile
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 10:26 am

I can pretty much confirm the 200% modifier. I just fought a tower boss with 2 E3s. The one in the middle row auto-attacked for ~5200, and when his skill procced he hit for ~10-11k.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 12:04 pm

Shhhhhhhhh lol
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 12:12 pm

Dang, now you have me rethinking the order of the universe ...

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Uh, Zoar ... how about we flip the trade?
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 2:22 pm

My POPE Abyssal Emperor:



Now some numbers:
PE Incinerate: 12,620 ATK x 200% x 6 = 151,440 damage from proc (plus possible poison)
PE Abyssal: 15,342 ATK x 200% x 4 = 122,736 damage from proc
PE Restrained Titan: 13,744 x 150% x 5 = 103,080 damage from proc
PE Cyclops: 17,095 x 150% x 4 = 102,570 damage from proc
PE Prawn: 12,721 x 200% x 3 = 76,326 damage from proc (plus possible poison)

As you can see, not only does Abyssal have awesome stats for an epic (blowing most Lethals even out of the water for overall stat points), but his pure damage output as an ATK merc is second only to Incinerate, doing a good 20% more damage per proc than Restrained or Cyclops. I don't know why people are selling him for 2-3 res each but im going to stock up and profit.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 2:31 pm

I would too if I had any res to rub together.

Since ATK gets nerfed during tower, how's he stack up to the other disciplines - WIS & AGI mercs?
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 3:07 pm

F-9 hits less, Burnfrost hits harder, otherwise you have to get in lethal range to get some comps.

Below are 8/200 cumulative skill damages:

Na'Lac ATK 92982
A9-4t Prawn ATK 80226
Ultra Mutant ATK 79686
Cyclops ATK 106470
Incinerate V2 ATK 159240
Restrained Titan ATK 107955
Abyssal Emperor ATK 127928
Bionic Televangelist WIS 92088
Repaired Cyclops ATK 105870
Lucion WIS 105960
MX Sentinel WIS 107994
F9 AGI 110677.5
Lilith AGI 115584
Burnfrost V2 WIS 151659
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 3:30 pm

selling 9 abyssal patriarchs Smile
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 4:13 pm

I'm still looking to pick some up-just can't pay any res...not going to freak out if I never build an 8n1...
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 4:14 pm

He also has chance to stun which seems to be working well. I still need 2 more for 8n1
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 5th 2014, 11:04 pm

It's funny how I think someone tanks the economy of good mercs on purpose to see if people are dumb enough to believe this merc was worthless to throw there's up for nothing to later realize that this merc is worth a fortune
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 5:55 am

˄ this has been happening more and more lately around here, especially with the JSON data encryption...
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 6:41 am

These are going through the roof now on the market one up for 20 res ! May need to listed my spare as need res...
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 8:22 am

I find it highly entertaining that one post sets the market ablaze for these guys and they go from 2 res to 20 res overnight. Is this the power I wield? Muhahahhahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 8:38 am

More than likely, people are starting to run in to good evos of Abyssal in PVP and, after getting properly dominated, realize the errors in trading patriarchs for rail gun trekkers straight up.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 9:29 am

That's why the JSON data is so valuable. It's almost like insider trading Legend - just don't get caught by the regulators!
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 9:52 am

But we don't have the JSON data, hep, it's still encrypted. The reason it took so long for this to get out was we had to do the builds and calculations by hand and find the modifiers through testing. Once the complete picture came out though, you can see that people suddenly liked him.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 10:13 am

^^ precisely my point Legend. If you have the data, whether it's from the JSON or from personal experimentation (Zoar would say hypothesis testing ... hehehe), anyone can benefit from "knowing" before the market adjusts to the imperfect ripples of awareness that exist within FF.

Manually chewing thru the data is just the poor man's BI tool - excel spreadsheets and formulas work nearly as well as the other formats.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 6th 2014, 3:20 pm

got 2 pope repaired cyclops for about 60ac THANKS to no json Razz
good sides...bad sides.... its always the point of view...

Although this makes it even harder for newcomers to get worthy mercs and not giving it all away on the x for nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 10th 2014, 8:18 pm

Up to six copies so I still need two more...
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 11th 2014, 9:50 am

PM me Zoar .... I have 2 left.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 11th 2014, 11:04 am

Art, are you still hunting 2 of the Patriarch r1's?
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 11th 2014, 11:33 am

@KainHighWind: PM sent.
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PostSubject: Re: W: Abyssal Patriarch   March 11th 2014, 12:54 pm

Closed-thanks to KainHighWind and Heptathlete.
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