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PostSubject: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 2:34 pm

Hey guys. We have new support merc lunched as a reward from latest event and I started to wonder how is he compared to our old attack buffer: Primarch.

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Card name and Evolution using :HPATKDEFWISAGI% of perfect stats
Giga-primarch v2: [[1+1]+[1]]+[[1]]10,7288,82613,09612,99910,78495.51%
PE (8x1*)11,2229,24313,72513,59811,295100%
Mordeo Mutant [[1+1]+[1]]+[[1]]10,29114,12411,3958,6119,69795,81%
PE (8x1*) 10,79714,82011,7619,03610,074100%

Do you know what's the buff stats are?

I wonder - Maybe better option is to build 2x 4* MOrdeo Mutants instead of 1 perfect one? What do you think?

Which of that mercs are better? What do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 2:39 pm

I assume the Lacerto buff will add 9036 ATK and DEF (100% of its WIS) to adjacent.

Hes slow as a slug but that DEF boost could win you many battles
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 2:40 pm

Pair an OPE Mordeo with a Junker War Marshall atk reduction debuff, and you should be able to beat most turret/mutant teams.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 2:42 pm

So in overall terms do you think it's better than Primarch?

If you could advice me:
Is it wiser to make 2 of them and use in tandem with other ATT familiars like meta's and turrets?
Or make 1 OPE one and still using 85% of PE Primarch?
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 2:51 pm

It will prob be better than primarch, it depends on if the ATK buff is high enough to insure OHKO from turret/meta attacks

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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 3:02 pm

Raids
I would pick primarch do to the higher atk buffer

Tower
I would pick lacerto for the def in order to use less resources.

Pvp
It depends on your setup. So undecided on this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 5:18 pm

I think Primarch has the speed and Wis edge in PVP, Lacerto has the better buff for Raids if your not using all outs, and either works well enough in tower, Lacerto more if you need the defense. Personally, neither is going to make it into my lineups except against raid bosses with Fro-go in the mix but I really like Lacerto for when/if they ever let us feed units abilities to our leaders...
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 5:28 pm

What is the modifier on Lacertos? 100 percent seems unbelievable to me. The wiki needs to be updated.


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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 6:36 pm

Btw he has 14.820k ATK , That is amazing! And if he procs he has almost 25k atk , which will 1hit most first and second row if he is in front.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 6:50 pm

Yeah, if he didn't go after everything else worth a dang in pvp, he could be a contender.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 7:14 pm

Ya I don't remember the agi of betty or gormandizer but if they proc lacerto will be OHKO
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 7:23 pm

yeah fair enought, i am going to try rig,mor,rig , i want to see how it goes
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 7:29 pm

That is a lot of support to make him shine, and I don't see him outperforming fro-go in that spot. Let us know if he outshines frosty.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 7:33 pm

well my band is going to be sam-rig-mor-rig-sam. i like the buff to protect the rig and given them good atk.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 10:08 pm

I still think if I can get them my team would be a buffer team in assault 5
Golem mordeo junker mordeo golem
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 10:29 pm

What will fit better in my squad? Big rig v2 or lacerto.

My squad is:
Auto Turret v2
Frozen Golem v2
Blood Widow Queen
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 20th 2013, 11:23 pm

Edwardgrc2 wrote:
What will fit better in my squad? Big rig v2 or lacerto.

My squad is:
Auto Turret v2
Frozen Golem v2
Blood Widow Queen
Big Rig v2
Alvin Dutch(leader)

i think you should try turret-golem-rig-mordeo-queen, i would not run dutch he is just too weak. Rig could benefit from the triple buf and wreck on the double attack and have a good def.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 21st 2013, 6:57 pm

Can anyone confirm that Moredo buff has 100% wisdom multiplier, i.e, 9K ATK + DEF?
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 21st 2013, 9:18 pm

Yes. According to the json, the modifier attribute is wis and the value is 1 (or 100% ). Same modifier as primarch/golem ATK buff but for DEF as well.

It should be noted, however, that since Mordeo's wis is lower than primarch or golem, it will be a smaller increase in damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 21st 2013, 10:20 pm

legendslayer wrote:
Yes. According to the json, the modifier attribute is wis and the value is 1 (or 100% ). Same modifier as primarch/golem ATK buff but for DEF as well.

It should be noted, however, that since Mordeo's wis is lower than primarch or golem, it will be a smaller increase in damage.

My analysis of that is that primarch will increase 14k att and mordero will increase a total of 19k stats split.in two. It is useless to.kill a unit with 24k damage when he has 14k health. Therefore, I think mordero is way better than primarch if the def buff allow to take at least one more hit per squadmate.
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 22nd 2013, 12:16 am

The agility of both means they will be the last to move in most tier 1 fights, so an advantage there doesnt mean much.

Mord can hurt if the buff doesnt happen while the primarch would hit like a wet noodle.

Mord buffs def and attack while primarch only buffs attack...

Is this really that debatable?
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PostSubject: Re: Lacerto vs. Primarch   February 24th 2013, 12:31 pm

Karthunk wrote:
The agility of both means they will be the last to move in most tier 1 fights, so an advantage there doesnt mean much.

Mord can hurt if the buff doesnt happen while the primarch would hit like a wet noodle.

Mord buffs def and attack while primarch only buffs attack...

Is this really that debatable?



Im putting in the EP fam from this current event PE -PE Mordeo V2-PE Ultra Mutant V2-PE Primarch V2- PE AutoTurret V2
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