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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 8:09 am

so the guy who bought dual barrage for 37 cans didnt knew that shellstinger does the same job as well for free
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 4:10 pm

Wow, you're right. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 4:18 pm

dokesh123 wrote:
so the guy who bought dual barrage for 37 cans didnt knew that shellstinger does the same job as well for free
lol! I bet they feel No Suspect confused affraid pale Embarassed scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:02 pm

Maybe he just wanted to have 2x chance for double damage. Nothing wrong with that. Or maybe he wanted to run the prices up.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:12 pm

I really doubt shellstinger will ever be tradable. That's the thing...
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:13 pm

Btw wasn't me, but I'm happy I bought one last raid and picked up 2 more when it ended, for a total of 4, because i knew this would happen Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:19 pm

Shellstinger should become available for either x or free pacts. If it wasn't for the bug, nobody would concider it a good merc. And I don't think Dakota would add cash-only-pact for a bad merc (which it would be without the bug).
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:20 pm

I think i have some layin around actually lol
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:22 pm

I would consider it okay regardless because its gonna have nice stats
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:31 pm

I'm guessing pacts. Because if he got put on the X then people couldv made extra accounts and gotten hundreds of them... Bad thing for the market, very very bad
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:34 pm

Edwardgrc2 wrote:
Bulletstinger v2

http://prod.na.fatalfrontier.gameviewstudios.com/DownloadContent/common/card/figure/10489l.png

Corroded Fire-
Deal heavy ATK damage, and weaken 3 random enemies. Effect is removed after next hit.


|maxhp = 13527
|maxatk = 14738
|maxdef = 14006
|maxwis = 12147
|maxagi = 10648
Well okay, "bad" was wong word for it. But still can't think it would bring Dakota much cash if it was cash-only merc.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:39 pm

^^ yup

With crystals its mean lol ... After one evolve and 50 crystals the atk is either 9000 or just under 9000
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:43 pm

I'm not trying to say cash only. He'll be in free cells, just not tradable because there's already probly like 100000 out there at least, all free probably a lot going to certain multi account owners
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 5:54 pm

Should replace nalac as the next best multiattacker damage wise after incinerate, even without the weaken. So I would hardly call it worthless.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 6:51 pm

He's just too slow for PvP Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 6:58 pm

My opinion on PVP is that blue bot is the great equalizer in respect to speed. I believe that anyone running an epic, non lethal based squad needs to be running a blue bot, simply because 90% of epics are simply too slow for pp. Certain exceptions would be like very good evo burnfrosts. So talking about speed in this game isn't nearly as applicable as talking about it in Blood Brothers, where the speed buffs aren't nearly as prevalent or useful.

I hate talking about how 1 particular squad mate is a must have for PvP, but it is just the truth. If you aren't running 5 lethals (or even many times when you are) if you don't have a blue bot you won't be competitive. And in this case, the person with the best blue bot will have his entire team go first, exceptions being like the BF mentioned above.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:11 pm

^^^ I was going to write pretty much the same thing but you beat me to it....
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:14 pm

Blue bot buffed stinger is still slower than blue bot buffed Ultra Mutant. Speed is everything. At the very top of PvP it gets even more important. People need to find ways to buff up blue bots buff etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:18 pm

Ya if each player has a blue bot it still comes down to base stats
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:33 pm

...and the stats of the blue bot....

Depending on the team you are facing you can probably guess what kind of blue bot they have, but remember they range in stats from like 9.2k to 11k

If you are running an ultra mutant, you aren't at the top of PVP.....
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:39 pm

Dude... you are missing the point here Rolling Eyes You can't compare mercs by giving a better version of a buff to other one. It's base speed against base speed, or there is no point to talk about it.

And yeah, I was totally running an Ultra Mutant at the top of PvP Rolling Eyes 
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:46 pm

That's why I run 2 blue bots Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:46 pm

In all this, it says blue bots aren't equalizers, it says they are a base necessity. So if everyone has a blue bot then its the same as nobody having a blue bot more or less not accounting for the small gap in stats from ghetto to pope
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:48 pm

Here's a solution...release blue bots in packs

Or something similar so that others can compete
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:50 pm

^That ain't no solution Orion
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:52 pm

Hahaha no but it would certainly help ME Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:54 pm

Dropping blue bot proc % to 50% or 49% would at least push people to use other mercs.

Would be a dull world if every single team had blue bot in it. After that everyone would need a wis buffer for blue bot etc. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:55 pm

Patience and effort yield rewards in time. Just keep trying, its unlikely you'll have it served up on a silver platter however

Like I said tho if everyone had one then it would be pointless and we would all be using 4 man formations basically if you understand what I mean here
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 7:58 pm

The question is that for how many people will choose a merc for PVP based on base speed.

I don't. Burnfrosts used to be everywhere because they were so fast and people would be constantly talking about the speed of mercs. People would POPE mercs because it actually mattered.

Want to go first? Just pick opponents with a smaller number of blue bots (or unbuffed blue bots) than you.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 8:26 pm

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Want to go first? Just pick opponents with a smaller number of blue bots (or unbuffed blue bots) than you.
This is exactly what current top pvp is. You just pick opponent that is slower than you. If you can't do that, then you pick the opponent that can be slower than you in theory. But you don't go against opponent that is simply faster than you. So base stats count.  

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I don't. Burnfrosts used to be everywhere because they were so fast and people would be constantly talking about the speed of mercs. People would POPE mercs because it actually mattered.
You don't have to worry about POPEs, Ls are all pope or someone messed up big time, (or uses pact Ls).


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The question is that for how many people will choose a merc for PVP based on base speed.
You should form your whole team with speed in mind. Or make a big time turtle counter team.

Granted I haven't played epic teams in a long time, and might be a whole lot of different story with them. Doubt it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 9:02 pm

I think we are coming at this from 2 different perspectives.

Pretty sure we face some very different opponents, have very different teams, but are still capable of getting similar results in PVP with the teams (Just so you know I run a 3 man team of Es and fight Es in my battles).

I agree with your statement that the whole team should be formed with speed in mind, because you need to look at the agi after the pre battle buffs.

From memory ryback's team had a couple of fistas, a tele and a blue bot. You could put a merc in there that has 0 AGI and it probably would not matter because after buffing it would still have enough agi to go first against most teams.

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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 28th 2013, 11:57 pm

Yeah, I usually run 2 NT's in the back row, 2 Fistas up front and then pick-a-merc in the middle of the M formation. I could put a Fug Bug in the middle and he would definitely go first if the 2 NT's and 2 Fistas buff. Would love to put a Golem or Mordeo in the middle, if I had one. That may be my next purchase, but I keep waiting to see if they come out with another Combat Awareness type merc. That would be a pretty vicious turtle.

BTW, Hatchetrizer's turtle team absolutely stomped on me last time I fought him in daily PVP. Had to spend 5 mags just to keep my streak. I try to avoid buffed up Odin's now.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 12:02 am

Ryback pm bro
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 12:07 am

I think you should have a DJ in reserve in the middle that you can use against turtle teams. Actually, while you are at it, just get 3 of them in the middle positions as reserve.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 12:10 am

DJ is a merc that has eluded me due to the high asking prices so I forget about them. Would love to get my hands on a PE one though.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 2:22 am

What was hatchet running again last pvp? I remember running into him and beating him with 1 ammo, but thinking I got very very lucky that a few of his buffs didn't go off, or Odin would stomp me. Then again, I was using my own "Buff Odin, Buff!" setup that netted a lot of wins.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 4:38 am

Also Duavae had awesome turtle team with HC buffing Mordeo buffing Canis.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 4:48 am

Duavaes, I think Davethedabs, and the guy with 3 blues buffed by two hellcats were the 3 scariest to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 8:28 am

If only I could have just one hell cat.
Blue-hc-kill clause-daddy v2-blue is what I really want to run. Going to have to try out tigrey in the HC position this next pvp
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 9:37 am

Arth i have 10.6k tigrey you can use during next pvp
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 11:26 am

Would love to see a Hellcat re-release to v2, if only to see the point totals at the end of the event and the new, slightly different artwork.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 11:56 am

Thanks Ace I've got a couple tigs I can use though. HC re-release would make for the highest point totals of any event I guarantee it.
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PostSubject: Re: Squadmate Tier List   August 29th 2013, 1:05 pm

Watch them re-release her as a V2 in pacts- now that would bring in money for Dakota. They would double their net worth overnight.
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